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I never could buy what she [Andrea Dworkin] said. Early feminists went to Arabia and said how nice the burkha was cause it took off the pressure of the male gaze. For them, male desire was also desire to harm. Youre conquesting us, penetrating us, conquering us! I thought we were having fun. It goes both ways. I like it. You like it. I objectify women and I look at them and I desire them without having any desire to harm so I knew from my own experience that I could objectify and not wish to harm."
-- Nina Hartley