Managed to gain a new convert to the cause...after getting babyinga to listen to some Thickets tunes, she's hooked. Also had redheadevilchiq over last night to show her 'The Ring', which she absolutely loved. A good coupla hours of chatting and babbling and picture watching and joking, etc., followed...ah,and she gave me a copy of the epilogue to 'From Hell' (the original comics), which rocked! THANK YOU!!!