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23 July 2003 @ 11:54 pm
Movin' On Up  
Sometimes, the best cooking is experimental or accidental...the upshot this evening was twofold: one, great pasta, and two, my sinuses are very clear.

Just sat through Shanghai Noon and Shanghai Knights...you know, as much as I like Jackie Chan (Chan's the Man, you know), the 2nd film was such an example of the Great Hollywood Sequal Machine: take the bits from the first film that went over well, throw in twice as many and exaggerate them, and screw the rest of it. I wish Jackie would go back to Hong Kong and make real movies...they were so much better when they weren't about the Hollywood stars. I love his work, but it's just not the same.

On a side note, I swear I'm going back on an icon kick very soon...it would have been tomorrow, but I'll be gone part of the afternoon, so I dunno how much I'll get done, since I also plan on doing the next Tarot card. Gotta go with Di to the doctor...and I don't mind telling you that my mind is pretty occupied with that...perhaps more later.
My Life As A Military Wife & Motherbabyinga on July 24th, 2003 01:07 am (UTC)
Hope the appointment goes great and good news is the end result. *hugs* to you both!
Sribbles McBottomfootachmanage on July 24th, 2003 04:52 am (UTC)
I wrote a review about Knights. It's on my journal. I'll dig it up.
Marla Maemsmarlamae on July 24th, 2003 07:19 am (UTC)
Hope everything is okay with her.
lordmwolv on July 24th, 2003 09:39 am (UTC)
I agrre on the sequel issue. They just take things to far these days to try and make a buck. One of my Fav. scenes of any comedy is from Shanghai noon. The scene where Jackie and Owen are in the bathtubs playing the chinese drinking game.
God of Thunder and Rock'n'Rollarchmage on July 24th, 2003 09:41 am (UTC)
Uno Mas!!!
Erik: Hats Offamusementdevice on July 24th, 2003 11:33 am (UTC)
Actually... Jackie himself likes Knights more than Noon.

Noon was more of the "I'm a director and I want Jackie Chan" movie, where as Knights gave Jackie more of the creative freedom that he wanted. Several of the silly fight scenes and over exhageration were from Jackie himself.

And I'm not sure what you mean by "Great Hollywood Sequel Machine". The Hong Kong Movie Machine is far worse than that. I mean... how many Once Upon A Time In China's are there anyways? In an interview with Jackie and the director for Legend Of Druken Master, he is quoted as saying "In Hong Kong film making, if something works... you do it again... and again... and again... and again..."

Personally, I think Knights is the better of the two. Where Noon gave you a good story full of dramatic friendships, revenge, and a few good kung fu scenes... Knights gives you that, but a lot more comedy in the style of Buster Keaton... or the Keystone cops... with a definate flavor of Jackie Chan.
God of Thunder and Rock'n'Rollarchmage on July 24th, 2003 01:50 pm (UTC)
I will give the props for the choreography Chan did for Knights...the fights and stunts were primo.

True, Hong Kong is just as bad about sequels...I just see so much of the blatant idiocy in Hollywood about it. The credo seems to be 'add more one-liners and action, and remove more story'.

I liked Knights, but it just didn't feel as "deep" to me (as deep as a Chan film gets, you understand what I'm talking about). I enjoyed the slapstick, and what not, but the story felt too forced.
Erikamusementdevice on July 25th, 2003 01:36 am (UTC)
I agree with you on the story. It did fee a little forced.

Very much along the lines of "This happens... and then this happens... and then this happens". They're both really great movies. But as they're both supposed to be funny, I think knights was by far... the funnier of the two.