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18 June 2004 @ 02:44 pm
Rant Time Again  
After reading over my friends list today, I saw someone had linked to a post in anti_porn. Out of curiosity, I clicked it to read.

Now, right up front, I should say that I am not, in any way, against porn. Frankly, I'm a big advocate of sexual freedom and liberation, and I think most people would be better off if they just relaxed and got laid. however, I'm also aware that not everyone likes porn, and that's groovy. You don't like it? Don't watch it. Hell, I don't care for organized sports, so I don't watch sports games or buy sports merchandise, etc...but I don't care if anyone else does, simply because they are them, not me.

Sex is such a charged issue in our society today. People are so up in arms about the smallest things (Janet Jackson's bejewelled nipple, for instance) and sexual harassment shit at the workplace is at an all-time high. Is this due to a rise in libido? Or is it just that people have become more sensitive to it? Stop and think about it; when you get a new item of some sort, you start to notice that same item everywhere. Or just get any sort of idea in your head, and see just how much you see it around you. Now, think of how much crap is shoved down your throat about harassment...and is it any wonder how much you may see? Sad part is that most of it really isn't harassment. Look up the definition of that word, and you'll notice that it means "persistent" irritation or torment. So one dirty joke that you don't like doesn't cut it.

Anyway, back on topic. The post in question was a girl, describing why she disliked porn...and the whole thing just made me laugh. First sentence, she's already jumping on the "porn degrades women" bandwagon. Why is it that people against porn seem to think that the women are helpless? Just like any hobby/job/situation, you have the power to walk away, any time you choose. Degrade? These people seem to think that sex moves you to a lower station. I got news for ya, kids: sex is life. That's the way it is. Your choice to fuck or not to fuck doesn't make you any better or worse than any other person.

She continues, though, making the most absurd accusations I've seen in a while. According to her, porn is bad for "the effect it has on men". Again, the sweeping generalization. how do you think she'd react if someone made a statement about how all women are a certain way? badly, to be sure, but it's OK to say that all men are affected by porn this way (the bad effect apparently being that it makes them say dirty things). She then goes on to say how porn "slowly smothers the conscience", leading to allow one to believe that it's OK to hit a lady's butt, grab her breasts, cheat on one's wife with a co-worker, and rape a little girl. Um...excuse me? Did we just make a leap of illogic of monumental proportions? Is this some extension of the effect porn has on men? I've watched a lot of porn in my time, and never once did I think it was OK to rape a little girl, or even grab a random lady's breasts or buttocks. I can't be THAT ahead of the curve.

Lastly, though, was the kicker. She asks "how do people get entertainment out of watching two (or more) people perform acts of pleasure on each other?" At this point, I had to stop, I was laughing so hard. How can it NOT feel good to see an act of pleasure visited upon someone...it's damn sure better than an act of violence and hatred, which is the primarily visual entertainment, from TV to movie to video game. She explains that sex is linked to intimacy, in her eyes, and thus, watching someone else have sex feels like an invasion of privacy to her. Now, I can respect that, but, at the same time, that is simply a case of 'don't watch', not a reason to be against it...after all, you've openly admitted that this is just an issue with YOU. All that, ignoring that this was made for the express purpose of being watched; it's not as if you are pulling a Peeping Tom act.

Oh, good to see that she's watched a porn flick once to base all this crap on. And admits she's a 'goofy teen with unusual morals' (thanks for throwing in that attempt at superiority). When you aren't old enough to have experienced the world, don't go denouncing it, doll.

Look, the point here is that, once again, the world is laying the blame for something at the feet of something not responsible. Why? Because humans don't like to think that they are, in fact, animals, with animals' tendencies. Someone watching porn is no more likely to make them go rape someone as giving them a gun is going to make them kill. You do what you do because you are going to do it. Accept that. If you rape someone, you didn't do it because you watched a porn flick (Hell, if you watched the flick, you probably got off, and didn't NEED to rape someone). You did it because you chose to do it, and you had the will to do so. Take responsibility for your actions; don't go trying to blame something else, making it an excuse for your own lack of self-control and intelligence. If you can't tell the difference between fantasy and reality, then your problem is schizophrenia, not the porn industry.

As with anything else in the world, if you don't like it, don't be involved with it...but don't go trying to make the rest of us into you. If I wanted to be you, I'd stalk you...but then, you'd probably blame that on porn, wouldn't you?
 
 
regerisreg on June 18th, 2004 02:49 pm (UTC)
blame that on porn
the only thing wrong with porn is the bad acting and no script,..hollywood is quickly lowering the bar to fix this ineqity,..o.o
God of Thunder and Rock'n'Rollarchmage on June 18th, 2004 03:42 pm (UTC)
Re: blame that on porn
Yeah, they no longer look so bad, compared to Hollywood's average flick.
Donnasouthernred on June 18th, 2004 03:09 pm (UTC)
The great thing about porn is it's so educational.
I learn all kinds of things, and then I try them out.

Only Jack didn't care for the one when I was getting on with the OH!OH!OH yeah baby.... and then swing my hair out of my face.

Ever notice how when they are doing it from behind they always sweep the hair back so you can see the face?

He said, would you please shut up! I laughed so hard it ruined the moment.

Oh and that masturbation stuff? Now if I see what a guy does to himself, then I can go do the same thing, and he's like.. where did you learn that?
(I'll never tell)
God of Thunder and Rock'n'Rollarchmage on June 18th, 2004 03:43 pm (UTC)
Yeah...you sorta have to make allowances for the fact that it is all filmed.
Donnasouthernred on June 18th, 2004 03:59 pm (UTC)
But we've been married so long, it adds variety.
And it WAS funny. Especially the ~sweeping hair~ lol
All in fun.
God of Thunder and Rock'n'Rollarchmage on June 18th, 2004 04:25 pm (UTC)
Absolutely!
Wolfyewolfye on June 18th, 2004 03:09 pm (UTC)
OMG! Did you check out http://www.godhatesfags.com ? Linked from that community?

No sex, no drugs, no wine, no women, no fun, no sin, no you, no wonder it's dark...
God of Thunder and Rock'n'Rollarchmage on June 18th, 2004 03:43 pm (UTC)
That site...man, if there was ever a call against intolerance...
Leshracleshrac on June 18th, 2004 03:30 pm (UTC)
Porn! The all purpose birth control.
Because for some guys it raises thier standards so high they will never get laid for real, thier for removeing more people from the gene pool.

Hell it helped me maintain my virginity till i was 19 because I knew porn was safer then actually dealing with women. They were far to complicated...4 years later I still have determined that they are far to complicated but they are worth it.

Still havent quite determined if masturbation or sex is better. at least when i do it myself I dont have to worry about diseases or children...*chuckle*..and its much less messy.
God of Thunder and Rock'n'Rollarchmage on June 18th, 2004 03:44 pm (UTC)
Oh, there are definitely advantages to masturbation...but I gotta choose the actual woman, pretty much every time.
God of Thunder and Rock'n'Rollarchmage on June 18th, 2004 03:44 pm (UTC)
Oh, there are definitely advantages to masturbation...but I gotta choose the actual woman, pretty much every time.
ex_nostradom25 on June 18th, 2004 03:47 pm (UTC)
Well, I will say this
I agree, if you don't like it, don't be involved with it. I would never want to marry someone who went to church every Sunday, so I wouldn't marry someone who still needed the porn.

I would like to say, though, that I would love for sex to be discussed at the dinner table. I would love for people of all sizes and shapes and ages be able to enjoy sex and not think that they needed to look or act like a porn star to enjoy their sexuality. I would love for people to see all kinds of bodies being sexy, enjoying their sexuality, and engaging in sex, not just those that have been surgically altered or airbrushed. I would love to know that the most beautiful women I know didn't think they were so hideous because they didn't look like a porn star, or that they were so incredibly unsexy because they didn't act like a porn star either. I would love to know that people of all sizes, shapes and ages were comfortable with their sexuality instead of feeling like they were not entitled to it because they have *somehow* picked up the idea that they're "gross", "fat", or their "boobs" or "dick" were "too small" to have sex. I would love for sex (real sex, not the Hollywood porn boob job penis enlargement sex) to be everywhere and enjoyed by everyone. I would also love for people to be able to view sex as part of a bigger picture and not just as body parts.

Just my little $.02.
God of Thunder and Rock'n'Rollarchmage on June 18th, 2004 03:57 pm (UTC)
Re: Well, I will say this
Amen to that. There's no reason why sex should be a taboo subject. it would be nice to see more people willing to talk about it, and openly dicuss it...and not in a "omg, I can't believe I'm admitting this" kinda way, but as you would discuss anything.
God of Thunder and Rock'n'Rollarchmage on June 18th, 2004 03:57 pm (UTC)
Re: Well, I will say this
Amen to that. There's no reason why sex should be a taboo subject. it would be nice to see more people willing to talk about it, and openly dicuss it...and not in a "omg, I can't believe I'm admitting this" kinda way, but as you would discuss anything.
Beca: dangerous liasons by lindi_maddeolivetree on June 18th, 2004 04:54 pm (UTC)
A-fucking-men to that. It;s one of the things I am grateful for daily-- that I was brought up in Brazil, where the whole culture is much more open abot sex like that. I cannot remember a time when I did not know what sex was. My parents never hid from me when they were naked (shit, some of the best conversations I've ever had with my mom were in the bathroom), and you know your dinnertime conversation topics.

And I think I'm damn sexy, 30 pounds overweight and with unshaven legs, too.
God of Thunder and Rock'n'Rollarchmage on June 18th, 2004 05:02 pm (UTC)
And I think I'm damn sexy

And that is really the bottom line. When you make sex taboo, you become uncomfortable with yourself...and vice versa. Amen for open communication!
Becaolivetree on June 18th, 2004 06:08 pm (UTC)
::nods::
orochireiko on June 18th, 2004 08:28 pm (UTC)
gotta throw in that porn doesn't solely have an effect on men. extreme overgeneralization, of course. what bubble of the country does she hail from?
God of Thunder and Rock'n'Rollarchmage on June 18th, 2004 08:31 pm (UTC)
Hopkinsville, Kentucky...but seems to be all hung up on being German and Anti-Nazi. Go figure.
Kassiopiakassiopia13 on June 20th, 2004 12:55 pm (UTC)
To me this all comes down again to the basic problem that mankind has. Self centeredness. If everyone would have read (and understood) and heeded what Kant wrote a long time ago the world would be a better place. Live absolute freedom, but remember that your freedom ends where someone else's starts. That is the basic problem with a lot of people. Their opinion is the only opinion that counts and none else could have a valid point. THAT in my view starts wars, starts religion and starts religious wars for that matter.
There is nothing wrong with Porn, there is nothing wrong with fantazising about something and it's your own personal freedom to watch or not watch.

hehe do keep in mind however that teenager DO know EVERYTHING ;) We all did at that age, right?
celticcross13celticcross13 on June 21st, 2004 06:56 am (UTC)
charlatan
Did you follow the link to her LJ page? She posts all of this anti-porn stuff on the community page and then posts quiz results on her own page about how she should pose for playboy and perfect 10. What a f*cking hypocrite. What's even more amusing is her post on "what do you guys really think of me?" right below her "i should pose for porn" post. What a piece of work.
God of Thunder and Rock'n'Rollarchmage on June 21st, 2004 09:31 am (UTC)
Re: charlatan
LOL...no, I didn't bother checking her out any further. Man, that's just beautful.